Wednesday, February 20, 2008

household semiotics

1
Mark and I used to play Boggle for hours - days, actually - and we often squabbled about when you may consider a word a word. I felt that you needed to have some idea of the definition of a word before you could write it down ("Gentleman's Boggle"), and he thought you could write down things that "looked like words" and look them up later and get credit if they were.

2
This morning, P. and I were talking about Mitchell and Webb, and he mentioned that Britain has a lot of comedy duos. I said that we used to, and cited "Elaine May and that other person." He said that it doesn't count if I don't know the name.

So in instance 1 we have form but no meaning, and in instance 2, meaning but no form. The question, then, becomes: would Saussure rather have played Boggle with Mark or discussed comedy with me?

Also, cards.

14 comments:

Mark said...

What are you talking about 'form with no meaning'. Everybody knows what snop means.

Lore & Ipsum said...

Meaning derived from Jungian collective unconscious is not in the Boggle rule book!

Mark said...

That's correct. And if I'm not mistaken, the Boggle rule book works mainly by excluding types of words that may not be used.

Ergo: snop counts.

Anonymous said...

Curses! Foiled again!

When are you going to update your blog again? You'll have to rename it to: "Powdered Creativity: Enough to Make a Quart(er)"

OK, that was mean.

Mark said...

I am trying to remove myself from daily activities on STP by the end of the week and after that things should approach normal.

HuffPo is coming on as a full partner today which means there will be an influx of about 70 people to help.

This has been a crazy month.

Mark said...

When is there going to be another comment?

ifyft: A unit of vague measurement used by men who are five feet, eleven inches tall but claim to be six feet.

Lore & Ipsum said...

Ha! An ex-boyfriend used to say there was no such thing as a 5'11" man. He was 6'2", which I internalized as average, (we'd been living together for 2 years) and this wreaked havoc on my ability to describe people for months after we'd broken up.

Anonymous said...

i am willing to comment but am not willing to put forth the brain energy to ponder saussure. is that horrible? plus i'm not much a boggle-ist. i only understand scrabble references. i am open to this changing. but what i really want to know - if it is fair to reference pass posts in a comment on a new post - is whence this 'down South' approval (as mentioned yesterday)? i don't think of you, for instance, as 'South,' dear l&i. and thus i am baffled.

vflflsv (n): a healing balm for wounds inflicted in the playing of whiffle ball with germans

ps why are all the times posted in pacific time? also baffling.

Lore & Ipsum said...

I have a friend who emailed me recently to tell me that she liked you (though you've never met her), and she likes Mark (I don't think think they've met, either), and that she enjoyed your interactions.

This friend, by the way, just finished her dissertation while working full-time and raising a baby. Amazing, eh?

Anonymous said...

An ex-boyfriend used to say there was no such thing as a 5'11" man.

I remember that -- you quoted it to me immediately after I said I was 6'0". I wonder what height is nonexistent in Europe?

You know, my word verifications would work better if flippin' blogger would accept them the first time. It destroyed them four times in Firefox, and now that I switch to Safari, it gives me "crabs"? Fie.

Anonymous said...

Is it terrible to say that I'm impressed that you know html tags? It is, isn't it?

Also, what does it mean to "claim" something? To assert as true? But you'd never speak of yourself as claiming something (in that way).

mrfmo: (n)(urban slang) marshmellow

Anonymous said...

what I meant was that there appears to be an explicitly pragmatic way that "claim" is used, which should it be part of the definition? other words that have this dimension?

Anonymous said...

If it makes you feel better, one of the times my comment got rejected was because my tags were mismatched.

ifsashpj: conditionally belted sleepwear

Anonymous said...

ifsashpj: conditionally belted sleepwear

I LOVE this definition. Only programmers and other techno-nerds (self included) can truly appreciate it. Now I want to see the end of that command statement. ifsashpj then dscmfrtandchafng ?

ok, my first attempt:

tfzeynl: (n) Tylenol's pre-market brand test name targeted to Czechs